Following Jesus When Certainty Feels Out of Reach

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Episode 25 · 1 hr 3 min
Dr. Kyle Chase, a longtime campus missionary and pastor at New Life Church in Ann Arbor, talks about faith, uncertainty, deconstruction and the discipleship college students need now. Drawing on almost twenty years of ministry at the University of Michigan, he explains why students are asking harder questions, why certainty is often the wrong goal and how honest wrestling can lead students toward Jesus instead of away from Him.
Together, we discuss Open Table, a space for students from all kinds of faith backgrounds to bring hard questions about life, God, suffering, sexuality, Scripture, and culture. Kyle also shares insights from his doctoral work and upcoming book, Jesus Mysterium, inviting listeners to encounter Jesus not as a tidy answer to memorize, but as the living mystery who is both terrifying and beautiful, present with us in the wilderness, and faithful in the midst of our uncertainty.
This conversation is for campus missionaries, pastors, small group leaders, and students who want to follow Jesus honestly in a world that often feels unstable. Kyle reminds us that the goal of discipleship is not to bubble-wrap students with easy answers, but to help them see their lives inside the larger story of Jesus, where suffering can become a song and uncertainty can become the very place where God speaks.
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- Dr. Kyle Chase
New Life Church, Ann Arbor
Mentioned in this episode
- Jesus Mysterium — Kyle Chase
For release information, connect with Kyle through New Life Church; a public book page could not be verified.
- Open Table — New Life Church
Ask New Life Church about the discussion group mentioned in this episode.





